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I don't know when I'll get used to the
clap.

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What? It's like a dramatic clap. It's
not a... It's not a... It's a...

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He had created a list for this podcast
back in 2019 when we

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were beginning. You were on that
original list. This piece was always

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happen. Yeah, seems like it. What's the
most attractive thing about the male

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species? What's the most attractive
thing about female species?

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I can write an essay about that. Over to
you, Maluka Mohan.

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Physically, I like the strength.

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Someone can take care of you.

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Sounds like you're describing Prabha.

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Oh God, yes. No, I'm saying something's
been pulled up on the screen.

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Oh, Talapati Vijay. He's one of the
biggest superstars in our country. And I

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just feel like he's one of the best
listeners I've come across.

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And now he's pouring into politics and
that's what I guess you need. Film world

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is going to miss him. It feels like a
personal loss.

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Is Malayali cuisine your favorite food?

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Indian cuisine as a whole. The moment
I'm in Italy, Pran, I am that tourist

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will be like, yaar, koi Indian
restaurant hai kya? Dal and rice. Dal

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How was it growing up near Vicky
Kaushal?

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He's my first friend ever because I was
like one and he was I think six. Did he

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ever break out into like really cool
dancers? He would always dance and he

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like a very captivating dancer.

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Are you single right now? You're asking
me questions I can't answer.

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What's your go -to -date situation?

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Go -to -date.

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I'm vibing this.

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Some romantic vibes are coming out.
Romantic vibes?

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That's it.

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I had to.

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beautiful Indian lady, visits us on TRS.
She's one of the great achievers that's

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come out of my city, Mumbai.

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Malvika Mohanan has found success in
every film industry that she's been a

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of. Today, she joins us for the super
therapeutic conversation on PR.

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I don't know when I'll get used to the
clap.

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Why? It's fun to watch.

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And it's quite a... Animated, right?
Yeah, it's like a dramatic clap. It's

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thak. It's not a... It's a... Intention.
Yeah.

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It's so that he can see it because we
can't see each other's eyes.

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Oh. You shouldn't have broken the
mystery around it. I thought it was just

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like... No, no.

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Just extracting out all these secrets.

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All these secrets.

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I want to... I have a compliment for
you, though.

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Your very nice conversational energy.

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Oh, I enjoy genuine conversations. One
thing I struggle with a lot, which my

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work requires out of me, but I still
struggle with it, is small talk. So this

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great. It works out great for me. Like,
hi Ranveer, nice to meet you. Chalo,

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let's talk about life and spirituality
and, you know, trust issues or travel,

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stimulation, everything.

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Do you meet, at least... In our age
group, I have not met a single woman who

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doesn't enjoy this. I've met some guys
who don't enjoy it.

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But I think every girl at least really
enjoys deep talk.

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It is the ones I come across. Maybe we
come across artists, that's why.

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Maybe. I don't know. I don't know if
it's a girl or guy thing.

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But I love talking to people who can
hold a conversation with genuine intent

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genuine engagement without the presence
of alcohol.

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Hmm.

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A lot of people can do that when there's
alcohol involved.

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They need that to break the ice, to be
social. At least like one drink.

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Because of my profession and because I'm
shooting all the time, I can't drink.

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But I do want to have good
conversations. Even if I go for a party,

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know.

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Alcohol shouldn't be a factor for good
conversations.

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I think the beauty of children is that
children are inherently confident.

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And then as you grow up, And as you go
through life, life strips away that

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confidence and replaces it with
insecurities.

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Some bad influence from your friend
groups or from maybe some bad teacher

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insecurity in you. And then that
insecurity finds its way into social

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situations. You're right. You're right
because in most people who can't, and

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they're great socially, but only with
alcohol.

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It's too much self -analysis that
happens in social situations. I think

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strips that away. You stop thinking
about yourself and you stay raw then.

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Yeah. Off late, like, I'm finding it, a
lot of friends I've had since a long

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time, I'm finding it hard to connect
with them.

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Because most of their, if you're
stepping out, where do you go? You go to

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restaurant or you go to a bar.

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What do you do there? You drink.

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If I don't want to do that, then none of
them are interested in just randomly

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sitting at home, catching up, talking.

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Whereas my mother and her generation of
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They don't need this to like hang out
with each other.

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And that's when I realized that the
shared activity when it came to a

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generation was just being around each
other. The activity is just presence.

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going for a walk together. Or you meet
at home and talk.

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Or someone is cooking in the kitchen.

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The other one is giving her company in
that. That's it. And there's a beauty to

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that. Now at least paddle a pickle.

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At least that's what it's become. But at
least that's better than partying,

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yeah. Like, you know, always.

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Have you ever been on a really bad date?

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Of course.

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Yeah? Yeah. What constitutes a bad date
for a girl?

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The person not being tuned in to you.

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Not being present? Not being present.
Because the whole point of a date is to

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get to know each other. How do you do
that if you're not present?

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You know, everyone keeps talking about
charisma as a skill.

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Being charismatic, having a good
personality.

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I actually think it only boils down to
great listening.

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Yeah. Everything else comes out of great
listening. Yes.

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But we're not taught this in school and
college.

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You have to be a good listener.

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I think you're probably right because...
Yeah.

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We never taught the importance of
listening.

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It's as important or even more important
than talking.

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Have you ever met someone or spoken to
someone where you're hanging with them?

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And they're not on their phone, but you
also know they're not listening to you.

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Yeah, of course.

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That happens. And I feel that started
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since doom scrolling has become a thing.

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Because of how it's wiring our brains
and because our brains have used to

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getting those hits so often, we've
gotten rewired.

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And unless we don't make a conscious
decision, so the moment there's nothing

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happening, it's like you're impatient.

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You know what I get pissed off with when
it comes to social media? Everything

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you said.

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But what I specifically get pissed off
with is too much relationship advice on

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social media. Too much everything
advice.

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Too much everything advice. Too much
everything advice and too much of

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everything is a red flag.

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Like, oh, if this person does this, it's
a red flag. Sure, of course, there are

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red flags, green flags, whatever.

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But at the end of the day, you know,
every person that you'll be with will

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something or the other which is not
perfect. Yeah. But it's okay.

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Imperfections are okay.

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You know, it's up to you to judge. But
as long as it's not very problematic, no

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one is perfect.

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You know, I feel especially from this,
exactly what you're saying, to add to

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what you're saying.

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I feel that you go through these like
trials in relationships.

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You know, you go through rough periods.
It's the natural course of a

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relationship.

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And the algorithm picks up on the fact
that you're going through a trial.

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And then it can sometimes amplify your
own demons.

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It can be, yeah, your boyfriend is an
asshole. How to recognize if your

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boyfriend is an avoidant. Yeah. I'm
like, bhaiya, avoidant kya hota hai?

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aur vice versa. You know, you tell guys
that, oh, women are complex.

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It's like that, woh neighborhood wali
aunty jo aisa kaan bharti thi na. Now

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social media. Because it's picking up on
all your issues. It's listening to you.

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And it's adding fuel to the fire. Yeah.
It's not sorting anything.

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So to switch out of social media now.

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I'm going to ask you the same question
but in another way.

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Tell me what a really great date you've
been on.

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Again, has to do with conversation.

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And you can tell a lot. You can tell
from body.

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Conversation is not just what comes out
of your mouth. It's also body language.

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You can tell if someone's tuned in.

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Someone should want to be there.
Otherwise, it's a shitty date to begin

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Okay.

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Are you single right now?

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Oh, you're asking me questions I can't
answer.

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So I'll take that as a no.

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I'll take it as a no. No comment.

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Okay, okay, okay.

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Good. I'm a hardcore, I'm a old school
romantic.

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I love that.

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And I'm in today's day of...

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An age of situation. Situation shifts
are actually on every era.

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Now there's just a term for it.

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That's the only difference.

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Ghosting also used to always happen, I'm
sure. Now there's just, you know, a lot

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of fancy sounding terms.

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Fancy terms, fancy algorithms.

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Fancy algorithms. Oh God. I think life,
we're living the life between these two

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things now.

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Stability feels good, no?

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I love stability.

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Because Ranbir also, my...

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The nature of my work is so unstable.

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Acting in movies is, you could have a
blockbuster hit and then life is great.

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And then after six months, you could
have other releases, three films tank

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you're in a precarious position.

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There is so much drama happening in work
life.

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I like coming back to a stable
environment.

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And my family and my loved ones are what
keep me grounded.

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And I think I would go quite cuckoo
without that.

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You're also a good listener.

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I aspire to be. So it's good to hear
that.

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You don't think you're a good listener?
I think I am. I think I am. And I'll

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also tell you something.

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It's something I constantly work on.

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I always work on. Like a skill. Because
there are people, I see them, they're

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not really listening. They're just
waiting for their turn to speak. But I

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feel that's basic.

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You know, I think listening is the first
skill.

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In social situations, the skill that
every other skill comes out of.

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And then the next skill is the thing
called conversational dance.

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It's exactly what you're saying. I call
it badminton. Yeah. But yeah.

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And girls can do this very easily.

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It's why podcasts with women are way
more fun.

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Okay. Yeah. Sorry, guys.

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Unless the guy is like, unless the guy
knows how to conversationally dance.

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And not every guy does.

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And it leads to very informative but
usually boring podcasts.

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I know what you mean. Like even, I mean,
you're comparing it to your podcast

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guests. I would compare it to my co
-actors.

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And I have worked with some co -actors
who are like amazing conversationalists.

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And they're better, they're fantastic
listeners.

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Like who?

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Like Talapati Vijay.

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He,

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I worked on a very special movie in my
career, which was opposite Talapati

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Vijay. It was called Master.

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It was a turning point in my career
graph because he's one of the biggest

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superstars in our country.

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And I just feel like he's one of the
best listeners I've come across.

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You think it's what people don't know
about him?

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That's one of the secret sources of his
mega success.

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In a sense, because I feel like he's not
caught up in some bubble in his head.

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He's realistically observing, listening.

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He's figuring out the pulse of the
person and the people.

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And now he's pouring into politics. And
that's what I guess you need to, you

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need to know the pulse of the people,
obviously, even for that. Read the room.

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Yeah, read the room. Read the room. Just
understand people better. What their

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wants are, what they want, what they're
saying. Just listen to them.

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What else did you learn about?

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through observation i really admire that
he walks his talk no matter what he'll

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say and it doesn't have to be something
big even if he says say if i've called

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him up and if i'm like okay ma i'm in
the middle of something can i call you

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tuesday at 5 p .m and i've randomly
called him up so he's not even had time

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look at his schedule and you know but if
he said that he will call on tuesday at

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Like he'll never back out of even things
he'll say randomly.

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You know?

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So I really admire that in a person.
Because we all forget.

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If I've told somebody I'll call Tuesday,
I'll be like, oh shit, I forgot.

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Sorry. And I'll call on a Wednesday. You
know what I mean? Small thing.

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But in the larger scheme of things, it
says a lot about a person.

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Systems lead to success.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I think the film world is going to miss
him.

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At least this phase, whatever's coming
up in his life.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It feels like a personal loss that he's
quitting cinema. I mean, he's doing it

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for his other dream. But as an audience,
it feels like a personal loss. Did he

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ever tell you about this other dream?

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No, no, no. I mean, I worked with him a
few years back.

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Something's been pulled up on the
screen.

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Oh.

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What memories of this particular photo?

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I remember this.

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This was shot at a studio in Chennai.

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And the team of this film was like a
family to me.

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So I had a lovely time working on this.

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And right after the scene, we shot a
song, which is one of my favorite songs.

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What's the most beautiful thing about
life, Malvika?

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The most beautiful thing about life?

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The first thing I thought of was family.

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Is that the most important thing in
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It is because things that excite me,
things that fulfill me at different

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in life have been different.

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But I think one thing that's constant
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a lot more, the more I'm growing up or
growing older, however you may term it,

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is family.

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Hmm.

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Yeah.

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Okay, I'm just going to take a random
tangent to the middle also. Go for it.

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had created a list for this podcast back
in 2019 when we were beginning. You

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were on that original list of names.
Okay. So it's happening like six years

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later. Oh, wow.

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So I feel like this piece was always
meant to happen.

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Yeah, seems like it. But I always feel
that, yeah.

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And I feel like being an artist sort of
reinforces that belief all the more

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because I have this one notion in my
head that every time...

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There's a casting happening.

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And I feel like every time I've reached
out to the maker, reached out to the

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film people and said, hey, I would
really love to be a part of this.

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It never worked out.

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And the most impactful, the biggest
films of my career have come to me when

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been holidaying somewhere, chilling.

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So I just feel like you can't predict
what happens when. What you can do is

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can be in control of your energy to a
certain extent and then just go with the

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flow.

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Are you having fun in life?

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I am. Are you happy or sad post 2020?

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Oh, I'm sad, dude.

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Why are you sad? I don't know what it
is.

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I think all of us age 20 years and five
years because of just everything that

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happened in the world, which is also why
people love shit talking on these

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podcasts. Let's shit talk.

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Everyone wants a distraction from...

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I do feel that, again, this is something
I've thought about a lot.

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I think in general, quite a bit. You're
very cerebral.

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I'm very cerebral.

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But I feel like, A, I feel one thing is
growing older.

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That the things I used to get excited
about at a certain age in my life, say

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my early 20s or mid 20s, things that
were genuinely exciting me.

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It doesn't excite me the same way
anymore. For example?

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For example, even travel.

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Travel has to feel deep.

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It has to feel deep.

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It has to feel. I like constantly being
stimulated. I like learning.

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I like learning about cultures, about
people.

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So I think the more we grow, we also
sort of, you know, you need to be

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stimulated as per who you are at a
certain point in time.

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So, you know, the thing you said first
about how your career opportunities have

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just found you and you're not chasing
them.

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Dude, I don't know what we're supposed
to do as people in our 30s, you know,

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because you've always been told to just
work hard and then hustle and chase

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things. And then some point in your late
20s, early 30s, you realize what you

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said. That dude, shit, all the best
moments have happened.

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When I'm least expecting it.

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So what do you what do you do?

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What do you do? Do you just like stay
and... I know what you mean. Like on one

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hand, the physical aspect of it, like
chase and hustle and make it happen. But

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on the other hand, things happen in a
very unexpected way.

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So where I have reached, and I've
thought about this a lot, like what is

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right thing to do?

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Should I not chase? Should I chase?
Because, you know, the history,

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it's been proven otherwise for me.

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But having said that, I do believe that
certain intentions that...

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I have put out, prayed for, meditated.
Like your path can be anything,

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right?

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You sort of take care of your energy,
your vibe, as we call it. And then

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happen when they have to happen. I'll
give you an example.

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This happened about 10 days back. Before
the show started, we were talking about

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my mother. And I was telling you about
how my mother loves.

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all sorts of esoteric arts. She's very
fascinated by tarot. She's fascinated by

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pranic healing, by feng shui. And she
has studied feng shui and she's been

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practicing it for close to two decades.

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So about seven years back, she had told
me that there's a feng shui which is

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like a turtle.

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And it sort of opens. So you write down
your dream or your wish on a piece of

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paper. You fold it. You put it in that
wish turtle.

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And you place that turtle at a certain
place in your house.

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So I had come back home from a long day
of work. And this is literally 10 days

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back. And my parents were sitting at the
dining table. And I joined them.

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My mom was like, oh, today I was
cleaning the house. And I saw this, you

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found like a wick turtle that we'd all
written our things. And do you know what

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you'd written?

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And my mind has gone to all the
possibilities that seven years back me

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have thought of or wanted. And I was
like, oh, God, I hope it's not something

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awkward. I don't know what I've written.

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And I was like, what is it? And he was
like, you had written that I really want

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to do a film with Prabhas.

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Oh, wow.

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And Ranveer, I didn't even remember it.

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But I remember watching Bahubali when it
had come out.

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And I love Bahubali. And I thought like
Prabhas was like that film propelled him

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to become like the biggest star in
India. And I was like, wow, I would love

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work with him.

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And today I'm at the brink of like my
movie with Prabhas releasing.

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And I'm like, damn, I didn't even know
this is something that I wished for. And

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did it happen immediately?

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No. Did it happen in three, four years?
No. It took its own sweet time to

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happen, but it happened.

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So the only thing I feel we can do is
just sort of, you know, put it out there

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and it'll happen when it happens.

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She said something about turtles.

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I had like a very magical life
experience recently. I was in Sri Lanka

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weeks. And on our second or third day,
we were going back to the hotel room

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after dinner.

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Okay. And there's a white sand beach.

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It's a place called Bentota.

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And then there's your resort. And
between the resort and the beach,

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patch of grass.

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Okay. So we were on the white sand and
we were about to go into the hotel.

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And then we saw this big dog kind of
shadow moving on the beach.

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Okay. And I put my flashlight on it. I
thought it was a big dog. It was a huge

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dog. Oh, wow.

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Which had probably like laid eggs.

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And I didn't want to go and bother it.

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But we saw like a big wild turtle, which
was like bigger than your average stray

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dog. And we just stared at it for like
five minutes.

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Didn't disturb it. What a lovely
experience to have.

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But so much of my heart healed just
looking at that turtle.

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And that answered that first question
about existentialism.

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I think these moments in life are way
more important than what you win or lose

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at in your career.

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Because the goal there is just to work
hard and keep doing things without

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expectation. But these are the moments
that life gives you.

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I think with age, you start appreciating
the little things. You do. You do. And

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you want... Life is just a collection of
these kind of moments. In retrospect,

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it's things that really moved you.

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things that like the unplanned beautiful
things. You know, but I do feel like

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Gen Z really has this sort of an
approach to life.

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Yeah. You had a moment like this total
moment which just like affected you a

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because when I talk to people in their
30s a lot, they keep talking about these

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little moments that they're having that
actually heal something in their heart.

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It sounds very silly.

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These kind of tiny moments, non
-materialistic. Oh, I've had so many of

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yeah. And that's why I love traveling.

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I love traveling and I hate the kind of
traveling where I don't have the

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patience for it. I love just constantly
moving, diving into places, going to

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places that nobody has, that are less or
explode.

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Like? Right after college, I remember
traveling to very remote parts of

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And it just took my breath away,
Ranveer.

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Have you been?

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Not yet.

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Not yet? Oh, you must go. I remember
doing Ladakh thankfully before it got

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with tourists. And I felt like this
every day.

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I would just wake up in the mountains
and I would just be like, where am I? It

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doesn't even feel like earth.

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Do you have a moment from your Ladakh
adventures which was very, very

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fascinating?

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I remember going to this really small
village called Turtuk.

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which is on the border of like india and
pakistan because

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they've come from the mountains and
generations earlier they

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must have traveled from maybe mongolia
or like afghanistan like certain those

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parts they don't even look in like their
ethnicity is so different and that

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place just took my breath away

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It was just, it was a small, quaint
village.

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It didn't look like a quintessential
Indian village or, you know, anything

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seen, actually, nestled in the valleys
of, you know, these large mountains.

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The people are dressed in, like, you
know, very tribalish attires. The kids

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have, like, pink, apple -like cheeks,
like how you see on, like, Mongolian

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and all in pictures, like those kind of
features.

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And I remember walking around the
village, no tourists, nobody.

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And there are like apricots fresh off
the trees. So if I was hungry and I

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just like pluck apricots and the air is
so clean, the place is so clean, I would

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just eat it.

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And it was just something else. It was
like being lost in like a lovely

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different world.

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So I remember feeling this there.

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I don't mean to be morbid with this
question, okay?

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But hypothetically, when you're on your
deathbed way later in life,

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Will you remember the movies you've done
more or the travel more?

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More than the movies, the experiences
and the memories I have while filming

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and certain friendships that I have,
like lovely moments, that will always

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in my heart.

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Not the movies in terms of filmography.

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Like whatever the equivalent turns out
to be, we don't know. But I think it's

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the memories.

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It's always the...

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Be it travel memories or be it memories
related to cinema. I think it will be an

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amalgamation of all.

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Do you want kids?

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I do. I love kids.

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Are you actively thinking about the kids
situation?

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I am.

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As most women.

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And the conversations between most girls
nowadays. It's like

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your biological clock.

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And your career clock are always sort of
at conflict with each other, right?

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It's a tough industry to crack,

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man. I'm just still hustling. Says a
lot.

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Yeah, I mean, I love working.

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And thankfully, like, since then...

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Since what, 2020? Whenever I've done
such fantastic films with such, some of

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best artists and best filmmakers.

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So it's a fun hustle. A hustle doesn't
feel like a hustle if you're having fun

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and making great cinema, you know.

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So I do, I do love that aspect. But I
also feel like,

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For women, this biological clock and
career thing, it's always that conflict.

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And I don't mean just for an actor. Like
I have my friends who are doctors,

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engineers, who are just like, listen,
we're at a great, 20s are for your

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hustling. It's by, say, by 27, 28 is
when your hustle starts paying off.

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On an average, whichever industry, you
know, whether you're in marketing,

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when you're like climbing the senior
positions, you're actually reaching like

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you're becoming like a boss and, you
know, you're building something of your

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own.

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And by then it's like, oh shit, now I
have to start thinking about kids

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00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,100
otherwise, you know, like it'll become
an issue later. So I see like most

453
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,460
working girls, most working, most women
actually.

454
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,000
Every woman. Every woman. I'm sure even
your friends would have had this

455
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,600
conversation with you. The friends,
the...

456
00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:44,620
you know people I meet at work or
teammates every woman is having this

457
00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:46,720
conversation they're like Karna I want
to have kids but I don't know where to

458
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,080
slot it in my schedule my schedule for
the next few years is so back to back so

459
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,080
that seems to be the situation which is
when I really envy men when it comes to

460
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,700
this one thing yeah I agree it's very
simple as a guy it's a linear path it's

461
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:06,300
annoying I'm like why why can't the
biological clock just be there for like

462
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:10,060
time, you know? So this time bomb is not
there.

463
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:17,000
I think a guy's 20s are way harder than
his 30s.

464
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,840
In what way?

465
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,880
20s are like crazy hard, dude.
Especially when you come out of college,

466
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,540
suddenly feel the weight of the world
because every relative, every bro, every

467
00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:29,600
mentor is telling you that you need to
man up.

468
00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:32,740
So the process of killing off that inner
boy hurts a lot.

469
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,100
For almost every guy. And then suddenly
you turn 30.

470
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,400
And you know your shit with your career.
You also know yourself to some degree

471
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,400
at least.

472
00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:44,140
You know yourself in relationships. In
the self -improvement journey.

473
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,660
And life feels way simpler at 30.

474
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,979
After 30.

475
00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:50,360
And keeps getting simpler. Can I ask you
one thing?

476
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:53,080
Because you brought this up. Because you
mentioned it.

477
00:27:53,360 --> 00:28:00,260
What is the... I heard this from a
couple of my friends. From my brother

478
00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:01,260
once.

479
00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:05,670
When you were becoming a man, like for a
guy, like there's a phase you go

480
00:28:05,670 --> 00:28:11,590
through, right? Like in your early 20s,
did you have a strong male figure in

481
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:12,569
your life?

482
00:28:12,570 --> 00:28:16,390
Which for most people is their father or
for some people it could be their elder

483
00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:19,770
brother. For some people it could be
like an uncle who's really close. Did

484
00:28:19,770 --> 00:28:25,210
have a solid male figure in your life
who taught you what kind of a man to be?

485
00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:28,930
I'll tell you something slightly
esoteric.

486
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:31,270
Yes, the answer is yes.

487
00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:35,180
but it wasn't one male figure. It was a
bunch of mentors.

488
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,520
At this stage of life, a lot of my
mentors are women.

489
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,280
I don't know how that's happened.

490
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,120
But in my 20s, I feel like I needed
those male mentors. In my 30s, I feel

491
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,160
need female mentors.

492
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,240
The esoteric thing is that in anyone's
astrological chart, there's an element

493
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,380
something called, like in English, you
call it Jupiter.

494
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,100
It's called Guru Tattva in like Indian,
Indic faith.

495
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,080
So anyone who's got, a strong jupiter
you always see that they attract good

496
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:10,320
teachers good mentors i felt that at
play a lot in my life but in my 20s for

497
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,840
this manning up thing you need slightly
older men and men who are a lot older

498
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,420
also slightly older men will teach you
aggression which you need to learn and

499
00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:23,980
the men who are like really old will
teach you how to be calm while also

500
00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:28,860
aggressive so i feel you need a balance
of both and i feel this female mentor

501
00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:34,840
thing in my 30s was happening to um i
don't know dude it's like it's happening

502
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,140
for some career thing also like to build
something very large or you need very

503
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:42,960
very deep levels of empathy and that's
what i'm learning from all my female

504
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,640
mentors now how to be empathetic towards
the world but also yourself right so i

505
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,460
don't i don't think i have any male
mentors right now. Maybe like one or

506
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:54,700
but they're just very like business
specific.

507
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,320
But I have a lot of female mentors who I
talk to like regularly to just

508
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,460
emotionally regulate myself.

509
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:02,620
Because that's something very crucial.

510
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,820
And as a woman, I never, because I
always had my mom at home, you know, dad

511
00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:07,820
would be away at work.

512
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,920
And my father had a very busy working
period at that phase when me and my

513
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,840
brother were growing up and my brother
was like five years younger to me. So

514
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,580
was like constantly away at work. The
elder sibling?

515
00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:23,220
youngest i'm the elder sibling yes two
of you two of us okay you have little

516
00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:28,980
elder sibling vibe vibe now i do i get
that all the time i'm not but like but

517
00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:32,360
but i am the one who'll annoy my brother
constantly so with him i have like a

518
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,640
younger sibling vibe but maybe outside
to the world i have a no no very very

519
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,620
like conscientious conscientious i

520
00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:47,300
don't like elder siblings usually Oh,
really? You have a younger sibling wife.

521
00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:48,299
Are you one?

522
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:54,940
They set the bar too high, you know,
about like how to be a good citizen, win

523
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:56,100
all these citizenship awards.

524
00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:59,560
I don't think I'm filling any
citizenship award.

525
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,600
I'll tell you that for sure.

526
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,540
Okay, go on, go on. Sorry. Oh, God.

527
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:09,880
No, I was just saying that my mom was
always there. So that was always like a

528
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,880
blueprint for, okay, what kind of woman
you're becoming without even realizing.

529
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,940
But I remember my brother telling me
this once in a very casual way.

530
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:20,840
He was like, you know, and my brother
can get very deep and very

531
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000
okay.

532
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:26,930
And he's also a historian and
archaeologist. So he's somebody...

533
00:31:27,050 --> 00:31:28,590
Professionally. Wow.

534
00:31:28,830 --> 00:31:34,490
He studied history at SOAS, which is the
London School of... It's a very, very

535
00:31:34,490 --> 00:31:36,870
well regarded college in London.

536
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:41,390
And yeah, he studied history there. He
studied archaeology.

537
00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:45,470
He's done a lot of digs. Where? In
different parts of the world.

538
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:48,810
Wow. So he's very enthusiastic about
that.

539
00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:51,110
He's in Bombay? He's in Bombay. He lives
here.

540
00:31:52,290 --> 00:31:54,810
I have a podcast guest I've found.

541
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:57,710
Oh, you really enjoy talking to him.

542
00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:02,850
Whenever I need a plus one while going
for any party and I feel like I need

543
00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:06,890
someone to take over, I don't have the
energy, I'm too beat to lead a

544
00:32:06,890 --> 00:32:10,230
conversation, he's my go -to. Hey, this
is my archaeologist brother.

545
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:15,890
it's a cool thing to see also yeah you
know and it's a room full of cinema

546
00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:19,090
people if you're like hey you know
that's my brother he's an archaeologist

547
00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:24,330
they're like ooh I'm like great talk to
him now you think one appreciates

548
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:29,550
history with age I find myself I always
enjoyed history I enjoy it a lot more

549
00:32:29,550 --> 00:32:34,910
now like I've always loved history not
as much as my brother because he was

550
00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:35,910
obsessed

551
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,320
You used to read these books called
Horrible Histories. Bachpan mein. You

552
00:32:40,340 --> 00:32:43,660
you would get those like tiny. They were
very popular when you were growing up

553
00:32:43,660 --> 00:32:47,060
at one point. It's uz zamanika. Uz
zamanika. But I love history.

554
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:54,000
If you could time travel to any period
in history, where would you go?

555
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,040
If I could sort out my self -defense, I
would go into the dinosaur age.

556
00:32:59,820 --> 00:33:02,180
Dinosaurs? Yeah, I want to just see
dinosaurs. Just see dinosaurs.

557
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,400
I don't want to talk to anyone. I can
just stare at this big -ass dinosaur and

558
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,800
protect myself, hopefully.

559
00:33:08,060 --> 00:33:10,320
Oh. You've seen Jurassic Park? Of
course.

560
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,760
I love Jurassic Park. Me too. I love it.

561
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,500
What a world, no? Yeah.

562
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,640
What about you? Where would you want to
go? I keep thinking about this a lot.

563
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:23,980
I would love to go to... A lot of
civilizations fascinate me.

564
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:29,850
Including like in India, if I had to
pick the Harappan Mohenjo -Daro

565
00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:34,150
civilization, the Chola period in Tamil
Nadu, the Chola Pandya kings.

566
00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:37,750
But the Cholas have done some like cool
stuff, you know.

567
00:33:38,550 --> 00:33:42,410
So that period interests me. But if I
had to pick, it would be Egypt.

568
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:43,999
Oh, wow.

569
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,999
It would be Egypt.

570
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,180
Nice. Yeah. I just want to see Egypt in
its full glory.

571
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,500
Because we've heard so much about like,
you know, everything. The pyramids, the

572
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:58,300
Sphinx, the Nile, the mummies. And you
know, what a world it would have been,

573
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,300
yeah. Yeah. I'm also sure it was 100 %
deeply mystical.

574
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,340
It was a lot of mysticism. So how
mystical?

575
00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:06,540
And I love mysticism.

576
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000
Yeah, same. It just wakes me up.

577
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,679
Like it hooked me into a space.

578
00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:14,900
So I would love to, yeah.

579
00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:19,219
Why don't people explore this concept of
Egypt more for cinema?

580
00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:20,980
They should, no?

581
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:26,139
Yeah. Yeah, they should. I think we've
only seen Bollywood numbers happen

582
00:34:26,179 --> 00:34:27,179
like dance and stuff.

583
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,620
Even globally, we've only seen The
Mummy.

584
00:34:30,850 --> 00:34:34,550
Yeah, actually. That's it. That's the
only film I can remember relating to

585
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:39,570
Egypt. In fact, I always keep thinking,
even in India, we have so much of

586
00:34:39,570 --> 00:34:41,210
history and local folklore.

587
00:34:41,449 --> 00:34:44,670
In every state, there's a different
story, there's a different folklore.

588
00:34:44,929 --> 00:34:45,929
Multiple, hundreds.

589
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:51,250
And we are not exploring our own folk
stories enough in cinema.

590
00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:55,330
I think there's going to be some wave
that's going to start now, you know.

591
00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:59,450
your childhood friend Vicky Kaushal is
also doing a Parshuram film, I believe.

592
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:06,920
So I feel this whole cultural tale angle
is going to make its way into Indian

593
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,320
cinema in a very deep way. And then
export itself to the world. Because the

594
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,320
stories are very rich.

595
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,160
How was it growing up near Vicky
Kaushal?

596
00:35:16,860 --> 00:35:20,320
I mean, he was just a friend that time.
Did you know he'll become Vicky Kaushal?

597
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,580
You think that that guy will become
Vicky Kaushal?

598
00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:30,060
Did he ever break out into really cool
dancers? He's always been a very good

599
00:35:30,060 --> 00:35:34,260
dancer. Because in childhood we used to
all play Passing the Parcel. Everyone's

600
00:35:34,260 --> 00:35:36,160
birthday party game used to be that.

601
00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:39,580
You played Passing the Parcel with Vicky
Kaushal?

602
00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:42,320
Yeah, I think every single birthday.

603
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,040
That was the go -to game.

604
00:35:45,790 --> 00:35:49,710
And then we would all do things that we
are good at, right? Like, and for him,

605
00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:52,810
it was always dance. Like, he would
always dance. And he was like a very

606
00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:53,810
captivating dancer.

607
00:35:54,930 --> 00:36:00,310
But yeah, he's my, we used to be
neighbors when we were growing up. And

608
00:36:00,310 --> 00:36:04,990
oldest friend. Like, he's my first
friend ever because I was like one and

609
00:36:04,990 --> 00:36:09,390
was, I think, six or seven or whatever.
And, you know, like, so since then I've

610
00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:10,169
known him.

611
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:11,410
Wow. Wow.

612
00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:15,830
Do you ever like meet and talk about the
journey of life post fame now?

613
00:36:16,030 --> 00:36:19,370
Like from playing passing the parcel
together to like being in film?

614
00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:20,930
Not really.

615
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:23,510
We just meet, eat good food.

616
00:36:24,130 --> 00:36:29,850
My mom, my mom makes lovely, lovely
South Indian food at home, Malayali

617
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:34,610
So we catch up over food and
conversations and you know, not really a

618
00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:38,530
reflective topics come up. Not yet.

619
00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:40,590
Is Malayali cuisine your favorite food?

620
00:36:44,129 --> 00:36:45,870
I have multiple favorites.

621
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:47,190
Okay.

622
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:50,630
I love Indian cuisine as a whole. Let me
start with that. Full spectrum.

623
00:36:50,970 --> 00:36:56,410
Because if I, the moment I'm in Italy,
France, Thailand, after two days, I am

624
00:36:56,410 --> 00:36:59,090
that tourist who will be like, is there
any Indian restaurant?

625
00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:06,170
I am that tourist. Okay. And I'm not
even kidding. I don't even need two

626
00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:09,470
Sometimes after one day, I'm like,
Indian restaurant. And my friends who

627
00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:14,220
like food connoisseurs, they'll be like,
See, we told you, you know, this is

628
00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:17,120
what you do. You keep running behind
Indian food, but I'm that person.

629
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,800
But having grown up in Bombay, I grew up
exposed to like multiple cultures.

630
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,200
So my comfort food on certain days is
fish curry, rice, like the Maluk

631
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:30,860
And on some days it's rajma chawal.

632
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,120
Then some days it's Konkani food. I love
Maharashtrian food also.

633
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:36,860
Malvani. And Maharashtrian chaat.

634
00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:40,820
Maharashtrian chaat? Bombay chaat. Okay.
Bombay chaat, not Maharashtrian chaat.

635
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:44,560
Bombay chaat, like vada pav and you
know. Gotcha. Sev puri and all of that.

636
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,680
it depends day to day. But Indian food.
Go to chaat? Go to street food?

637
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,939
Sev puri.

638
00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:50,940
Why?

639
00:37:51,569 --> 00:37:54,430
Why? I mean, what deep philosophical
meaning is there?

640
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:56,750
How do I get it out of my head? There is
depth in food.

641
00:37:57,290 --> 00:38:00,230
It's a way to get to know someone's
emotional side. There is definitely

642
00:38:00,230 --> 00:38:04,490
childhood vibes when it comes to my fish
curry, rice and fish fry. Of course,

643
00:38:04,570 --> 00:38:06,510
it's mom, it's home.

644
00:38:07,050 --> 00:38:10,170
You know, it's the food I link to my
mother.

645
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,160
The sev puri, I don't know. Why sev
puri? Because.

646
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,580
Some romantic vibes are coming out.
Romantic vibes for sev puri? You've done

647
00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:21,640
some sev puri date or what? No.

648
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,819
No? Okay.

649
00:38:22,820 --> 00:38:24,780
What's your go -to date situation?

650
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:26,260
Go -to date.

651
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,540
I'm having a lot of fun today.

652
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:32,320
I'm vibing.

653
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Vibing hard.

654
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,820
Date, date, date.

655
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,180
Maybe over a...

656
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,680
Nice meal, probably.

657
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,320
Where?

658
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,520
I don't think I have one place.

659
00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:47,140
I'm jumping around. I'm constantly
living across cities.

660
00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:50,960
Okay, okay. So, I don't think I have
one. How do you manage a relationship

661
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,080
you work in so many industries?

662
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,480
You make time.

663
00:38:54,820 --> 00:38:59,840
Call. I'm in control of what project,
what dates I'm giving to what project.

664
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,200
I make sure, like, for instance, I was
working for one and a half years non

665
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,940
-stop until three months back.

666
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,560
I was shooting for Raja Saab.

667
00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:11,120
My film that, you know, just come out.

668
00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:18,540
So for that, as soon as his shoot ended,
the last schedule, I was like, I need

669
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:19,740
a couple of months off to myself.

670
00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:25,180
Otherwise, I'm feeling like too
scattered, too all over the place, too

671
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,700
So then I like took two months off. I
told my team, guys, whatever we're

672
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,280
signing, we'll sign both that.

673
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,140
So I took two months off, spent time
with family, travel a little bit, sort

674
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:35,460
got that grounding.

675
00:39:36,580 --> 00:39:37,580
grounding back.

676
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,060
So, tell me something.

677
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:45,540
What's the most attractive thing about
the male species?

678
00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:48,500
What's the most attractive thing about
female species?

679
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:51,320
I can write an essay about that.

680
00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:52,900
Say the first thing that comes to your
mind.

681
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:54,180
First thing?

682
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Emotional regulations.

683
00:39:56,270 --> 00:40:00,110
Are most women emotionally regulated?
More than guys. You know this whole

684
00:40:00,110 --> 00:40:03,790
narrative that girls mature faster than
guys. I think when you're very young,

685
00:40:03,830 --> 00:40:05,210
it's about who's maturing faster.

686
00:40:05,450 --> 00:40:07,450
In your 20s and 30s, it's about higher
intuition.

687
00:40:07,830 --> 00:40:10,330
And 40s, 50s, 60s, it's like emotional
regulation.

688
00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:13,010
Girls are more sorted out. On an
average, obviously.

689
00:40:13,850 --> 00:40:14,848
Exceptions everywhere.

690
00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:15,990
We are generalizing here.

691
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:20,490
On an average, girls are just more
sorted out. But this is someone who's in

692
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:24,590
their 30s. When I was in my 20s, I'd
probably say like, girls are beautiful

693
00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:25,590
something like that.

694
00:40:25,870 --> 00:40:28,690
You know, the more surface level. Then
you grow through life.

695
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:34,630
I think at every stage you find things
to be attractive when you're craving for

696
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:35,468
those things yourself.

697
00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:39,290
Actually, I'm thinking what you said.
What am I craving right now? Or what am

698
00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:40,450
really appreciative of?

699
00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:42,550
But I know what you mean.

700
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:46,270
Like maybe there's an emotional maturity
that kicks in a little, you know, maybe

701
00:40:46,270 --> 00:40:49,090
before it does for boys the same age or
something like that maybe.

702
00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:53,370
You know, I think men and women are
hardwired slightly differently when it

703
00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:54,790
to conversation and guys are stalker.

704
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:58,800
Because girls talk so much, they're also
able to iron out a lot in their own

705
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,860
heads. I'm thinking about like, what do
I like? Like, for instance, a lot of who

706
00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:08,560
I am today, the kind of woman I am
today, it's because of the men in my

707
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,160
It's because of my father and brother.

708
00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:18,260
Now, for instance, my father never once,
it was never like, oh, you're a girl,

709
00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:20,020
still we're letting you do this.

710
00:41:20,460 --> 00:41:21,500
It was never like that.

711
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,900
I don't think they looked at it through
a lens of,

712
00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:29,370
It was always like the rules were same
for both of us.

713
00:41:29,770 --> 00:41:34,190
It was never put into my head, you're a
girl, but we're still letting you do

714
00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:35,550
this. And we're still letting you know.

715
00:41:36,130 --> 00:41:39,490
It was like, okay, Adi can't do this.
Even you're not allowed to do this.

716
00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:42,030
not allowed to go. You're a certain age.
Now you can. Adi is still a younger

717
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:44,790
age. It was always like specie one,
specie two.

718
00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:47,530
There was no gender thing at play.

719
00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:53,930
And the way my father is with women, the
kind of, you know, just how he looks at

720
00:41:53,930 --> 00:41:54,930
women, he treats women.

721
00:41:55,310 --> 00:42:01,970
It's how I sort of started looking at
the world, you know, my sense of self

722
00:42:01,970 --> 00:42:04,010
everything came from that.

723
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:09,690
So I'm very glad, like both my father
and my brother are feminists. But

724
00:42:09,690 --> 00:42:14,110
having to shout it out or, you know,
like prove it or sort of scream it from

725
00:42:14,110 --> 00:42:15,470
anywhere. They both are.

726
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,740
So I really, I mean, I don't know how to
articulate that as a quality.

727
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,820
You know, I like men who have a, what I
like is a man who has his own sense of,

728
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:28,760
a strong sense of self in a man.

729
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,300
And what I like, I don't know, in a very
girly way, what I like about the male

730
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:34,940
species is the, I don't know.

731
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,220
That they can be protective. Like
physically, I like the strength.

732
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,980
Like someone can take care of you.

733
00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:44,020
And it's beautiful when it's obviously
coupled with like emotional maturity.

734
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:48,320
you know, then it's like the male
energy. Sounds like you're describing

735
00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:49,540
Oh God.

736
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,380
No, I wasn't.

737
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:58,580
I'm saying that he seems like a guy who
is both physically

738
00:42:58,580 --> 00:43:02,240
daunting as well as emotionally very
evolved.

739
00:43:03,210 --> 00:43:07,210
I don't know his emotional aspect too
well, I'll be honest. I've known him in

740
00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:08,490
purely professional capacity.

741
00:43:09,130 --> 00:43:12,650
Not too well as a friend -friend either,
you know.

742
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:15,230
So I don't know. I genuinely don't know.

743
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:17,170
How was it working with him?

744
00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:20,650
It was lovely, yeah.

745
00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:25,210
I have wanted to work with him ever
since I saw Bahubali.

746
00:43:25,660 --> 00:43:31,520
Because I grew up in Bombay. I didn't
grow up watching a lot of Telugu films.

747
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,440
started watching Telugu films a little
later, like after I grew up probably and

748
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,440
started working.

749
00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:40,420
But I remember like really liking him in
that film.

750
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:46,720
And he had such a lovely aura and like
such a larger than life persona and

751
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,580
charisma that I always wanted to share
the screen with him.

752
00:43:50,890 --> 00:43:54,630
And so when this film happened and when
I sort of like met him on set for the

753
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:55,630
first time.

754
00:43:55,970 --> 00:43:58,990
And I always thought he was very shy and
introverted because that's what like

755
00:43:58,990 --> 00:43:59,990
people say about him.

756
00:44:00,350 --> 00:44:02,550
But he's a fantastic conversationalist.

757
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:05,770
He can talk really well and he's a very
good listener.

758
00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:10,350
And he really wants to know more about
you, where you're from, what else you're

759
00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:11,350
doing.

760
00:44:11,570 --> 00:44:16,610
So he's a very emotionally intelligent
conversationalist. That I would say.

761
00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:19,190
Why do you think the universe has chosen
you?

762
00:44:20,590 --> 00:44:24,110
distantly, you know, seeing your
journey, I'm very happy to see what was

763
00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:25,170
happening in your life also.

764
00:44:25,590 --> 00:44:27,970
Obviously, you've worked hard
consistently.

765
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:29,790
But what else?

766
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:34,650
I think the whole point of life is to
have fun.

767
00:44:35,710 --> 00:44:37,290
Do things that make you feel alive.

768
00:44:38,510 --> 00:44:44,410
You know, one of my most important
understandings about life is exactly

769
00:44:44,410 --> 00:44:46,710
you're saying. Which is that

770
00:44:47,970 --> 00:44:50,210
work as well as life needs to feel like
a playground.

771
00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:53,670
And if it's not feeling like a
playground, it's not worth the hard

772
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:58,230
not worth it because see, you're not,
and I always feel this about people who

773
00:44:58,230 --> 00:45:00,630
see stuck in very unhappy marriages
also.

774
00:45:01,410 --> 00:45:05,430
I feel the same thing. I'm like, there
is no, there's no medal for you at the

775
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:06,249
end of it.

776
00:45:06,250 --> 00:45:08,910
If you're unhappy, I'm like, you have
one life.

777
00:45:09,130 --> 00:45:11,710
Why do you want to just post something
that's not working out?

778
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:15,470
Because that's it, yeah. You don't have
to find any deep meaning in it,

779
00:45:15,490 --> 00:45:16,490
actually.

780
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,460
I am really excited about marriage,
kids, all that. I feel like it's like

781
00:45:20,460 --> 00:45:21,480
to school again.

782
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,920
Do you know what I mean? Like starting
school again, starting college again.

783
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,960
It's a new phase.

784
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:30,020
And I see that emotion with a lot of
people our age. But I would have not

785
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:32,360
this 2 -3 years ago in my late 20s.

786
00:45:32,780 --> 00:45:35,080
Now suddenly like... Feelings are there.

787
00:45:35,660 --> 00:45:36,780
Are you excited about marriage?

788
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,280
I am. I am. But I feel like I don't see
a very big difference between

789
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,910
companionship and marriage. Marriage is
just sort of... solidifying what you

790
00:45:44,910 --> 00:45:51,250
already have it's legalizing it but it's
an extension of companionship i

791
00:45:51,250 --> 00:45:54,910
look at it a little heavier than how
you're looking at it okay how would you

792
00:45:54,910 --> 00:45:57,410
look i don't i don't know now whether
that's male perspective or not because

793
00:45:57,410 --> 00:46:00,770
i've been doing a lot of reading related
to like getting married

794
00:46:02,020 --> 00:46:05,980
I honestly don't understand what it's
like for a girl. I'm sure that narrative

795
00:46:05,980 --> 00:46:10,300
we had about the biological clock, all
that kicks in for a girl. For a guy, I

796
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:13,800
feel it's a lot about like preparing
yourself for marriage. There's a sense

797
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,580
discipline you have to bring to your
life on 10 different fronts.

798
00:46:16,780 --> 00:46:21,640
You know, controlling your anger,
controlling your time, controlling

799
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,800
other things. For a lot of guys, it's
about controlling their lust.

800
00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:26,100
But that you have to do in a
relationship also, right?

801
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,880
Based on what I've spoken to like older
guys.

802
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,800
it becomes difficult after like 20 30
years of marriage in urban societies

803
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,540
i think loyalty is the bare minimum uh
but it's easier said than done like when

804
00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:42,440
you act that's all what all these modern
day urban narratives are about that why

805
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,560
is cheating becoming like a common thing
uh loyalty is a bare minimum but in the

806
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,060
modern day with all the stimulation and
all the social media it seems to be

807
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:55,900
difficult for a lot of people but my
larger point is at least for a guy i

808
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:58,480
marriage is a very positively heavy

809
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:04,120
I know what you mean from the sense of
that it's a big decision.

810
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:11,320
It's a big decision where I say that I
want to spend the rest of my life with

811
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,780
this person. I mean, you don't know how
things are going to, you know, hopefully

812
00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:16,300
everything works out for the best.

813
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,120
But in that moment, you are making that
decision.

814
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,540
This is my person.

815
00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:26,600
Now that person is going to be there
with you on your good days, on your bad

816
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,600
days.

817
00:47:28,290 --> 00:47:32,190
how that person thinks, how that person
feels, what kind of a person that is, is

818
00:47:32,190 --> 00:47:34,450
also going to influence how your
worldviews.

819
00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:38,430
That's why if you're with a partner, for
instance, who has a lot of like self

820
00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:42,670
-destructive qualities or who's
indisciplined or like something,

821
00:47:42,670 --> 00:47:43,670
could really help.

822
00:47:44,490 --> 00:47:47,850
What they say is true. You become like
the top five people in your life. You

823
00:47:47,850 --> 00:47:50,950
surround yourself with. So you also have
to decide that will this, do I think

824
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:52,030
this person will be a good father?

825
00:47:52,270 --> 00:47:53,730
Is this the father of my child?

826
00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:55,800
It's a very important question to ask.

827
00:47:56,140 --> 00:47:57,200
When do you think you'll get married?

828
00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:02,240
Maybe in a couple of years.

829
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,680
Within?

830
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,960
After.

831
00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:07,360
After? Just work.

832
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,680
Work thing.

833
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Yeah. I'm enjoying working.

834
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:16,340
And I feel like it's also... You'll know
when you're ready for it.

835
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,520
I'm telling you, I'm very, for me, it
has to always feel right with any, with

836
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,160
anything that I choose to do in life.

837
00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:27,100
The amount of films I have said no to,
and my team's just like, why would you

838
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:28,200
say no to this? And I'm like, you know
what?

839
00:48:28,660 --> 00:48:29,700
I didn't feel it.

840
00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:33,800
And it doesn't make sense to them
because they're like, but there's a good

841
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,800
announcement.

842
00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:38,080
You sign two more movies. And I'm like,
see.

843
00:48:38,810 --> 00:48:41,790
Of course, it's important to be
strategic about your business decisions.

844
00:48:41,790 --> 00:48:45,010
even when it comes to, like, everything
in my personal life, be it friendships,

845
00:48:45,210 --> 00:48:50,070
relationship, whatever it is, it has to
come from an honest space. So, I'll

846
00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:52,470
never feel like, yaar, I did something I
didn't want to.

847
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:55,910
What's the most messed up thing about
you, according to yourself?

848
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:59,150
I don't know, yaar. When you ask messed
up and all, what to say?

849
00:48:59,790 --> 00:49:02,010
What is the most messed up thing about
you? I'll get some ideas. About me?

850
00:49:02,570 --> 00:49:03,570
So much.

851
00:49:03,590 --> 00:49:04,830
Say, give one or two. So much.

852
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:06,270
I'm, like...

853
00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:11,720
psychotically moody but doesn't that
make it tough when you're in a

854
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:18,240
it um i'm like my my partner is very
good at handling that side and i think

855
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:23,200
that's the main thing that works for me
oh and and i i've communicated that i

856
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,020
i'm sorry i can't control this and it's
been there since childhood so i i do

857
00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:31,920
think i'm borderline some some deeper
issues which i've just kind of saved

858
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,920
myself from

859
00:49:33,299 --> 00:49:36,660
From a mental health perspective, I
think I'm fairly sane.

860
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,520
And I meditate a lot to control this
exactly.

861
00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:43,160
That's the most messed up thing about
me. And the people who work with me also

862
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,560
know this. But I'm not toxic at all. I
think.

863
00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:47,980
I'm not toxic.

864
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,500
All these guys know.

865
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,700
I know that when they meet me, they also
don't know usually what to expect.

866
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,900
okay because i don't know what to expect
i'm not in control but as long as i'm

867
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:09,300
being a good boy and meditating like i
know from a female perspective i would

868
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:14,140
find it very tricky to date somebody
who's moody like i i would i would be

869
00:50:14,140 --> 00:50:18,500
did i say something and that would go
into the overthinking mode it's because

870
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:23,600
me you know so it's good it's good that
your partner can You guys can have an

871
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,560
understanding. I've learned from
football, okay?

872
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,080
In sport in general, it always pays off
to over -communicate. At the

873
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,060
workplace... I love over -communicating.
I love it. I think it's the best.

874
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,260
It helped me pole vault this issue in my
personal life. That every time if I

875
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:41,560
feel my behavior is affecting my loved
ones, I'll just over -communicate. So

876
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,240
it's not... Don't worry. I'll be back.

877
00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:44,460
It's so much better.

878
00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:47,150
And I feel like, you know, when I see
couples who don't communicate, I feel

879
00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:48,150
like, this is it.

880
00:50:48,330 --> 00:50:53,210
And as a third person, I can see what's
going on. But when you are the couple,

881
00:50:53,410 --> 00:50:54,430
you have a tunnel vision.

882
00:50:54,690 --> 00:50:57,530
You're in your head feeling what you're
feeling, the other person's feeling

883
00:50:57,530 --> 00:51:01,790
what... And I'm like, why can't they
just talk, you know? But your most

884
00:51:01,790 --> 00:51:02,790
up thing?

885
00:51:04,610 --> 00:51:08,190
I'll tell you one thing that was quite
messed up about me.

886
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:12,350
Which I would like to believe I changed.

887
00:51:12,860 --> 00:51:15,880
And then I'll tell you something which I
still feel as ki abhi bhi messed up

888
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,860
hai. So, I don't come across as somebody
who's, you know, too perfect.

889
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:24,720
Dil se baat karo. Dil se baat karo. Toh
ek baat hai ki for the longest time na,

890
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,520
I feel like I couldn't say sorry.

891
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:36,760
I couldn't. Like, agar kisi ne bola ki
you've done this and, you know, I felt

892
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,320
bad, I would get defensive.

893
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:41,380
I'm like, but I did this because of...
So, my intentions are good.

894
00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:43,890
But I wouldn't communicate with the
right way.

895
00:51:44,090 --> 00:51:47,030
And I wouldn't take accountability. I
wouldn't know how to take accountability

896
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:50,790
and articulate. Listen, I hurt you. I'm
sorry. You think you've ever been a bad

897
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:52,510
girlfriend? Or partner?

898
00:51:53,530 --> 00:51:55,330
See, I don't know.

899
00:51:56,330 --> 00:51:57,330
You'll have to ask.

900
00:51:57,450 --> 00:52:00,810
I think when I was younger, I was not
the best partner. Yeah, me too. I think

901
00:52:00,810 --> 00:52:02,350
maybe when I was younger, I was not the
best partner.

902
00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:05,330
Mainly because I also feel like I didn't
have... This also happens with age.

903
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:09,050
You know, we learn a lot of things
through a course of time.

904
00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:13,130
I don't feel I could take accountability
for a lot of things.

905
00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:14,910
But then I changed that.

906
00:52:15,250 --> 00:52:19,350
Now I can, now if I feel like if I'm
wrong, I feel like, you know, handle it,

907
00:52:19,350 --> 00:52:20,870
this thing, handle it tactfully.

908
00:52:21,070 --> 00:52:23,690
Tact is also one thing I didn't know for
a very long time.

909
00:52:24,090 --> 00:52:28,410
Because I grew up with a mother who's
very... Very direct. My mother's a very

910
00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:30,550
direct person. Very no -nonsense, very
direct.

911
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:33,370
And also, it's that ghar ka bubble, na?

912
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,980
And then I would go out to my workspace
and even I would be very direct. No, no,

913
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,280
no, I didn't like this. But how can you
change the shot?

914
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,560
And then I started realizing, oh, damn,
you know, this is not working.

915
00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:49,320
You can communicate the same thing in a
different way. And tact is very, very,

916
00:52:49,340 --> 00:52:50,238
very crucial.

917
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:54,740
You know, it's one of the hardest skills
to teach a young person also. Because

918
00:52:54,740 --> 00:52:55,920
how do you teach tact to someone?

919
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,020
Like it's something one learns through
mistakes, I feel. And I also feel it's

920
00:53:00,020 --> 00:53:01,440
something you learn at home.

921
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,480
You learn.

922
00:53:03,610 --> 00:53:04,610
It's by seeing your parents.

923
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:09,350
Because I've seen my other friends who
are more tactful than me.

924
00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:14,970
And I'm like, oh, it makes sense.
Because aunty or uncle handle things in

925
00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:15,669
certain way.

926
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:17,410
You know. So children learn in
childhood.

927
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:22,390
You know, tact is the positive flip side
of being manipulative.

928
00:53:23,110 --> 00:53:27,370
Yeah. The negative version of tact is
being manipulative. Yeah. Tact is just

929
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:30,070
knowing in what tone...

930
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,320
How should you communicate?

931
00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:36,180
To move work forward or to move purpose
forward.

932
00:53:36,380 --> 00:53:40,980
Yeah. I have an internal feeling that
this is the end of the episode.

933
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:45,800
Your battery got done.

934
00:53:47,580 --> 00:53:49,120
Is this the end of the episode?

935
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,560
Keep one camera rolling.

936
00:53:50,780 --> 00:53:52,180
Go for it, Malika Mohanan.

937
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,100
I'm tripping on this clap.

938
00:53:59,150 --> 00:54:00,570
It's an energy release also.

939
00:54:01,130 --> 00:54:02,790
Feeling psychic vibes in this room?

940
00:54:03,350 --> 00:54:07,830
How do you feel? I feel good. And
actually, a lot of elements that you

941
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:14,790
the, I think, like, things like the
Tibetan elements, it takes me back to

942
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:15,870
my childhood because...

943
00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:22,740
My father used to take us to a lot of
like remote monasteries in Arunachal

944
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:26,380
Pradesh, Sikkim. Like we've traveled,
we've done a lot of road trips across

945
00:54:26,380 --> 00:54:30,700
India. And I've seen a lot of Tibetan
Buddhist influences growing up. So a lot

946
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:34,040
of elements in this room are like taking
me to that space.

947
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:36,840
That's the first thing I saw even when I
saw the bell and you know.

948
00:54:37,420 --> 00:54:40,900
Your first guest who's noticed that it's
a Tibetan bell.

949
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,740
I have a compliment for you to end the
episode.

950
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,200
You're a great actor.

951
00:54:47,380 --> 00:54:50,520
And like, again, as I said earlier,
respect for the hustle.

952
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:56,720
But, you know, on a very human, like,
conversational level, it's been really

953
00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:00,280
nice talking to you. You have a very
grounding presence for people around

954
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,500
So, I think what you've done really,
really right is that you've kept your

955
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:06,080
alive. Like, inside you.

956
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,080
And trust me, I meet people for a
living. Not everyone's able to keep

957
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,080
inner child alive.

958
00:55:11,260 --> 00:55:12,640
I think even I had to...

959
00:55:13,230 --> 00:55:15,610
Really find the child and drag it back.

960
00:55:15,850 --> 00:55:17,610
Drag it back. Bring it back.

961
00:55:18,190 --> 00:55:19,190
Get back inside.

962
00:55:20,650 --> 00:55:24,470
You know, the thing you're talking about
social situations and how when you're a

963
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:27,250
kid, you're very confident and the world
puts insecurities on you.

964
00:55:27,610 --> 00:55:30,530
Somehow you shed off those insecurities
and start growing your career and you

965
00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:31,530
become socially good.

966
00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:36,830
Once you become kind of famous, heavier
levels of insecurity are put on you.

967
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:39,030
And then you have to go through that
rebirth again.

968
00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:42,330
So right now, I feel like work is play.

969
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,940
It genuinely feels like play.

970
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,820
And I look forward to meeting other kids
in the playground like yourself.

971
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,220
Hope you have a great marriage and all
that also.

972
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:51,920
Marriage and all that also. You too,
Ranveer.

973
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:54,240
Hope you have a great marriage and all
that also.

974
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,440
Yeah, yeah.

975
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,240
Good luck with your career. Good luck
with your math. Thank you. It's been

976
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:02,600
just like chilling with you. It has.
It's been lovely talking to you as well.

977
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,020
Thanks. Cool?

978
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:06,500
That's it.

979
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,520
I had to.